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St Kilda and Fremantle: The Bizarro Rivalry (update)

The Ross Lyon defection brokered a new sensational chapter in the ridiculous rivalry between St Kilda and Fremantle, which I’d written on in 2010.

Whilst Ross took things to a new level, this past weekend threw up a couple more very interesting links:
– St Kilda’s first Grand Final appearance was in 1913, against Fitzroy. Freo will make their first Grand Final appearance 100 years later.
– Freo’s strange decision to wear their clash jumper on Saturday makes them just the second club to do so in a Grand Final. The first team to wear a clash jumper in Grand Final was St Kilda – also under Ross – in 2010.

Here’s the original post, “St Kilda and Fremantle: The Bizarre Rivalry” (I’m not sure why I didn’t take the golden opportunity to throw in the Seinfeld reference then and there) from 2010:

St Kilda and Fremantle share one of the most bizarre “rivalries” in the AFL.

As the two least successful clubs in VFL/AFL history to date, it’s not all-important clashes between competition juggernauts that this rivalry has been based on.

Rather, it has been a mixture of the unique, incredible and questionable, with occasional flashes of both genuinely brilliant and sadly woeful football being played.

It began immediately – although inconspicuously – in 1995, when Fremantle played their debut AFL match in the Ansett Australia Cup against the Saints at East Fremantle Oval. Whilst the match itself was normal enough (St Kilda would win by 35 points), this would be the only time (to date) the Dockers would actually play in Fremantle in a competitive AFL match.

In Round 14 of the following season, St Kilda would break through for its first win at Subiaco, and in Western Australia – of course, against Fremantle – in a game which produced great goals from both sides.

The next clash between the two came on ANZAC Day of 1997, with Fremantle – in 10th place and the Saints in 16th – weathering a late St Kilda challenge to win by a straight kick. The return bout was played on a ridiculously blustery day at Waverley in Round 20 of that year, with Fremantle in 10th place (again) going into the match whilst St Kilda was second on percentage, on its way to a second minor premiership. The Saints that time won a scrappy game by 13 points after the Dockers got within a point in the final term.

St Kilda co-captain Stewart Loewe would be stretchered off in Round 9 of 1998 at the WACA after an awkward fall in which his head ended up making contact with his knee. Despite a thrilling running goal from ruckman Peter Everitt, the 4th-placed Saints were overrun by the 13th-placed Dockers in the final term.

After several years of minor quirks, things were about to get really weird.

Continue readingRound 15 of 1999 will be remembered for the mark that was taken by umpire Peter Carey. Early in the match, Docker (and former Saint) Adrian Fletcher centred a short pass to Brad Wira on the wing, only for the experienced Carey, who was in the path of the ball’s trajectory, to take the mark and call for a ball-up. Needless to say, the incident was a massive talking point in football circles, though ultimately it would take its place in VFL/AFL history as a wonderfully unique and humourous moment in a game that has a habit of throwing those up from time to time. The Dockers would go on to win the game by 23 points, and send St Kilda’s season into a further downward spiral.

By the time the two teams met in Round 12 of 2001, both teams had new coaches and were sharing 14th (St Kilda) and 16th (Fremantle) places on the ladder; by season’s end they would be 15th and 16th respectively. On this Saturday night at Subiaco, the Saints won their third game of the year after a young Stephen Milne sprang to life in the final term, on his way to kicking three goals and giving the Saints a 10-point win. However, captain Robert Harvey would seriously injure his knee in a gang tackle that continued well past its use-by date; with the ball locked up amongst the scrum, the umpire inexplicably chose to let play continue, long enough for the Dockers players to force Harvey to the turf as his knee buckled under him.

It would also be Malcolm Blight’s last victory as coach for the Saints, with his brief tenure at Moorabbin ending just three weeks later.

The next season threw up a couple more notable matches – in Round 2, the fast-finishing Dockers would roll the Saints by three points at home after trailing for much of the day, and in Round 17 St Kilda played a rare home match at Princes Park and defeat the Dockers in a dead-rubber in front of just 8,078 fans.

A skip to 2004 would find Brent Guerra breaking Docker Byran Schammer’s arm in a devastating bump as a barnstorming St Kilda extended their winning streak to seven to begin the season, as well as Fremantle wearing their predominantly white away/clash jumper for the first time in the return match in Round 22 at Docklands.

A trio of thrilling matches followed. Strange, thrilling matches.

In round 2 of 2005, St Kilda won their first match of the season by a solitary point at York Park in Tasmania. The Saints would overhaul the Dockers in trying conditions, with Aaron Hamill earning a free kick for holding the ball and scoring the winning point – but not before a final Fremantle charge into their forward line, with defender Luke Penny expertly safely punching the ball out of bounds in the final seconds from a marking contest.

The infamous “Whispers in the Sky” clash was a dire battle in Round 21 at Subiaco. St Kilda were pushing to solidify a top four spot after being outside of the 8 after Round 13, though tipped by many to win the premiership on the eve of the season. Skipper Nick Riewoldt has broken his collarbone in Round 14, and stand-in captain Justin Koschitzke had powered his way to stunning form and lead the Saints’ fight for redemption. He earned 11 Brownlow votes in just five matches, and with Riewoldt back, he was seen as a key component to St Kilda’s premiership hopes as September neared. Fremantle, meanwhile were hoping to return to finals action after St Kilda had knocked them out on the eve of the 2004 finals series.

What happened on that Friday night is now a part of St Kilda-Fremantle rivalry folklore. Awful and questionable umpiring decisions went Fremantle’s way all night, gifting the Dockers several goals and depriving the Saints of several chances of their own. Koschitzke would injure a quad muscle in the third quarter, and he would not be fit enough to return to the side, which bowed out in the preliminary final several weeks later (had St Kilda defeated Sydney in that match, he would have been a huge chance to return for the Grand Final).

The final term was an old-fashioned thriller. In the final minute, with the Saints up by a point, Justin Peckett was run down by Luke McPharlin just outside Fremantle’s 50-metre arc; the resulting kick forward saw Justin Longmuir take a spectacular mark over the top of the pack just 25 metres out from goal. His kick was straight, and the Dockers had won by five points, and were to face reigning premier Port Adelaide the following week in the final round for a spot in the finals.

Channel Nine reporter Tony Jones – travelling back to Melbourne from the game after Nine’s coverage – claimed that he heard umpire Matthew Head, who had made a number of the decisions that went Fremantle’s way remark, “Now I know what it feels like to have a victory”. Several other passengers made the same claim as Jones, but the AFL cleared Head of any wrongdoing after an investigation into the matter that week.

Though they would start strongly, Fremantle lost to Port Adelaide the following week and finish 10th as the Power clinched eighth spot. St Kilda would go on to record two amazing victories over the following two weeks – their biggest win in the club’s 132-year history over the Brisbane Lions, by 139 points, and a brave eight-point win over minor premiers Adelaide in the First Qualifying Final at AAMI Stadium, to secure a home Preliminary Final and a week’s rest.

But the centrepiece of this rivalry – so far, at least – came in Round 5, 2006; the final installment of this trilogy taking place where it started – at York Park (now Aurora Stadium) in Tasmania, referred to as “Sirengate”.

The Dockers were truly dangerous in 2006, and were only knocked out a week short of the Grand Final. Though notorious for poor interstate form, on this day they were all over an inept St Kilda, who were making another slow start to a season. Though the Saints would be in with a chance all day, that chance seemed to have disappeared as the clock counted down to zero as a desperate Dockers defence forced a stopped in the Saints forward line, with their team up by a point. The siren sounded, and Fremantle players around the ball began celebrating a hard-fought victory.

But the siren was quite faint, and umpire didn’t hear it – and play continued from the stoppage well after full-time. The Saints forced the ball to Steven Baker, whose flying shot at goal – a number of seconds after the siren – missed to the left, tying the scores. The umpire then awarded Baker a free kick for a hit he got as he kicked it, and so he was to take the kick again, with the first behind taken back, and the Saints again down by a point. As this was occurring, Fremantle officials had stormed on to the ground to remonstrate with the umpires, with coach Chris Connolly finding himself arguing with St Kilda player Lenny Hayes. Verbal stoushes were springing up between officials, umpires and players left, right and centre, and amongst it all, Baker missed again. The game was a draw.

St Kilda coach Grant Thomas declared the game “one for the blooper reel” in the post-match wash-up, whilst Connolly was understandably furious. Fremantle immediately took the issue to the AFL. Sensationally, the AFL overturned the result during the week, with final score officially at 13.15 (93) to 14.10 (94), the Dockers victorious by a point.

The sides would meet again at Subiaco in Round 20. To date, this match is the most important game the clubs have been involved in against each other, with a top four spot up for grabs. Fremantle trounced the Saints, with the only highlight for St Kilda being a goal kicked by Brendon Goddard from an enormous kick late in the match; from just inside the centre square, Goddard’s kick would go through the goals at post-height.

The Dockers would finish third on the ladder, with fellow Subiaco tenants West Coast in first place. Though they would lose the Second Qualifying Final to Adelaide away, they won their first final of any sort at home against Melbourne a week later. Sydney knocked them out a week later, otherwise the MCG would have been set for an all-Western Australian Grand Final.

Several things of note come out of this. Firstly, St Kilda would have finished third on superior percentage if the “Sirengate” result had stood, forcing eventual Grand Finalists Sydney out of the top four, and forcing a Western Derby as a First Qualifying Final. Instead, the Saints finished sixth and limped out of the finals series in the first week, losing to Melbourne in the Second Elimination Final. Of course, if the Saints had won that game – which was a good chance of happening through the final term – they would have faced Fremantle in a semi-final, bringing the two teams face-to-face in massive game; as it happened, Grant Thomas would be sacked just days after the loss to the Demons. The other point worth considering – albeit a hypothetical one – is if the AFL would have overturned the result the way it did had Baker actually kicked a goal from either of his shots, “winning” the game for St Kilda. It’s one thing to overturn a draw, but to  completely reverse the outcome of a match would have made this issue far, far greater, and a much more daunting prospect for the AFL.

The following season was a disappointment for both teams. When they squared off in Round 20, with the Saints hoping to snatch a finals spot under new coach Ross Lyon, a collision between Steven Baker and Jeff Farmer would be the talking point of the competition for the following week.

Farmer left the ground concussed, with blood pouring from his face, after evidently running into the back of Baker. No umpires nor cameras saw or captured the incident, but a Fremantle trainer said that Baker had been malicious in the collision, and this was influential in the seven-match suspension Baker received. The Saints appealed, but this fell on deaf ears from the AFL. The decision would prove costly for the Saints, who were now without their star tagger as they were coming up against West Coast the following week, a must-win game for the Saints. The Eagles’ midfield of Chris Judd, Ben Cousins and Daniel Kerr were able to run far more freely and eventually the Eagles would win by eight points; though St Kilda defeated Richmond in Round 22, they would finish the season in ninth position after Adelaide also won their final round match to knock St Kilda out of September calculations.

Round 13 of 2008 saw a spluttering Saints wielding the axe on senior players Nick Dal Santo and Stephen Milne after just three wins from the previous ten games of football. Ben McEvoy, Robert Eddy and Jarryd Allen would all debut for the Saints on a dogged Friday night, with the Saints prevailing by eight points. It would be the beginning of a remarkable turnaround for Ross Lyon and his men, who would win eight of their final ten matches in the home-and-away season to finish fourth, including the return game at Subiaco in Round 20 which Stephen Milne played out with a grotesquely swollen cheek. The Saints would fall one week short of the Grand Final.

The Saints would go one better in 2009, as Fremantle were again finding themselves at the wrong end of the ladder. In Round 4, the Saints crushed the Dockers by 88 points, and keeping the visitors to a scoreline of 4.4 (28), the joint-lowest score at Docklands. Of course, that record is shared with St Kilda, who could only manage 3.10 (28) against Collingwood in Round 6 of 2002.

Most recently, their 2010 NAB Cup semi-final match was nearly called off, after storms ravaged the Melbourne CBD, leaving Etihad Stadium with internal roofing damage. The players ran out for a later start to no crowd in attendance, and the 5,000+ fans were eventually let in over the first quarter, but only allowed to be seated on the bottom level. St Kilda would win a position in the Final easily, but would lose that to the Western Bulldogs, who were making their first Final appearance of any kind in 40 years.

And now on Sunday evening, the two teams will be squaring off, and coming into this round are occupying the top two positions on the ladder. It’s definitely the first time this has happened with these two clubs; Fremantle will be looking to be on top of the AFL ladder at the completion of any round for the first time in their history, whilst the Saints are going to be entering a lengthy period of time with injured captain Nick Riewoldt. The football world will be watching this intriguing clash, which will hopefully be remembered for some good football, promising individual performances and solid teamwork. As long as no umpires take marks or feel like “having a victory”, or the siren fails, or there are unseen and inconclusive clashes which result in massive suspensions, or storms unleash fury over Melbourne, then there’s a good chance that just might happen.

But who knows?


Umpire Peter Carey takes a mark in Round 15, 1999

Justin Longmuir kicks a goal after the siren to win the game for the Dockers in the “Whispers in the Sky” match, in Round 20, 2005

“Sirengate” finish Part 1, Round 5, 2006

“Sirengate” finish Part 2

Brendon Goddard’s monster goal, Round 20, 2006

The Night They Chaired Off Clinton Jones

Round 3, 2012
Western Bulldogs 1.2,  1.5,  2.6,  5.10 (40)
St Kilda 4.5,  6.6,  13.9,  15.13 (103)
Crowd: 28,971 at Etihad Stadium, Saturday, April 14th at 7.40pm

High hopes for this game totalled exactly nil during Saturday.

For the religious of you (you may have seen some of my internet heroism post-match as my train was swamped by far-too-enthusiastic Christian teenagers – more on that later), I should point out this had nothing to do with the fact I attended the Global Atheist Convention during the day and am thusly incapable of positivity or any kind of hope.

The 92-point win over the Suns in Round 2 had a lot to do with the Gold Coast’s poor showing, and whilst the Dogs were gallant at Football Park neither of these sides could have been said to be staring down a top-four place this season.

In fact, most pundits had both taking a dive in 2012; the Saints to at least fall out of the eight and the Dogs to truly entrench themselves in the bottom part of the ladder as they attempt to rebuild.

Neutrals would have been a little bemused by Clinton Jones leading the team out in his 100th game – surely a precursor to something of a non-spectacle. The Convention had disappointed me a little – I’d only bought a ticket to see Christopher Hitchens, and he’d passed away in December after a long illness – so I wasn’t in a fantastic mood anyway after spending $300+ on a ticket. Richard Dawkins just isn’t quite the same.

I sat in the nosebleed section with my Saints-supporting friend Lewis (of the band sensationally named Footy) who bought a few more friends of his own along. Among them was an American who was seeing her first game of the sport. Chances are she found the experience perhaps even more wanting than the neutral fan; the game was done and dusted a few minutes into the third quarter and until that point had basically seen the Dogs blanketed by the Saints, who ran and harassed in numbers and despite their dominance the quality of possession wasn’t fantastic. It wasn’t a pretty game to watch, echoing the shut-downs of the St Kilda side in the early part of 2009.


St Kilda Fools’ Day

Round 1
Port Adelaide 5.2,  8.6,  11.9,  13.11 (89)
St Kilda 2.1,  9.3,  11.4,  13.7 (85)
Crowd: 21,179 at AAMI Stadium, Sunday, April 1st at 4.10pm

It was the usual story from a silly St Kilda outfit struggling interstate – the perfect blend of poor attack on the ball and woeful disposal as mediocre hometown heroes get a day of not very hard-earned crowd and commentator adulation (add the tarpaulin to that where Port is concerned).

I was worried this would happen. I didn’t expect Port to get out to a 26-point lead early, but if I did I’d have been paying actual reverence to pre-season form.

Making things worse for my mood personally was the fact I had to contend with a family dinner featuring Grandma whilst the game was on, with said meal served smack bang at the start of the third quarter. The temptation to really go bananas is always high at home, with a chance to make the most of minimal public embarrassment due to flustered face and anguished voice. Grandma’s presence of course tempered that, so I had to sit there on the couch and then at the dinner table in my player issue 2009 white training jumper and sulk and be flustered more quietly than I’d have liked.

The build-up to the game wasn’t too good with the news coming in that Ledger had been withdrawn for Farren. In a year which I’ve already written off and am trying to console myself with the line “it’s all about the kids” (all as a psychological ploy to avoid disappointment) this suddenly meant a far more experienced line-up would be taking the field. No excuses for a loss then – ok, fine; if you’re a good team then you should win this kind of game anyway – but it also meant a lack of urgency that Ledger brings and the chance to watch a young player take their opportunity to put their mark on the club.


Saints shine on a dark, humdrum Sunday afternoon

Round 16, 2011
Port Adelaide 1.2,  4.2,  4.4,  8.5 (53)
St Kilda 4.2,  9.3,  12.6,  17.7 (109)
Crowd: 16,887 at AAMI Stadium, Sunday, July 10th at 2.40pm CST

A dreary, hungover Sunday afternoon on the couch was given some welcome kick by the Saints’ dominant performance over a woeful Port.

It didn’t seem that way for the Channel 7 commentating team though. I’m sure they were in much better shape than I was, but from the direct cross to Bruce at the end of the opening vignette it was clear they just couldn’t be proverbialed to be in Adelaide for a game that was as enticing as exciting as it turned out to be.

Through the lackluster match, which didn’t have to wait for a tone of any description to be set (i.e. “St Kilda is winning”, which was all you could say really say about it) – it started when Roo kicked a goal from a free given before the first bounce – the commentating felt more like a chat between several onlookers in the outer, which had it have been would have doubled the crowd.

As opposed to calling the “match” as it happened, seeing as though there wasn’t much of a match to call, at-length discussions about the new advantage rule, Hamish Hartlett, the wind and/or weather (which matched Melbourne’s), and so on.

Bruce momentarily went the other way in the second quarter; right before Milne kicked at goal after creating a turnover he remarked that it would be “one of the happiest days of his life” if he managed to kick a sausage right then and there. Never have the stakes been so high in such a dismal game of VFL/AFL football.

For the record, he kicked it, and if Bruce was indeed correct then Yapper would have been beside himself with how the rest of the afternoon went.

He would finish with three of his own, including some icing on the pedestrian cake with a goal in the last several seconds of the match, to go with Roo’s four and Gamble’s four also as the Saints cruised to a 56-point win.

Vegas was in the right places at the right times on his way to his best game for the Saints to date. It’s hard to say at this point whether this will rank with Wayne Thornborrow’s four against the Hawks Waverley in 1995, or even Gordon Fode’s five in St Kilda’s upset over reigning premiers Essendon in Round 3 of 1994, but hopefully there is more to come from Vegas. He covers plenty of ground and can be a nice kick at goal, but he still looks like he’s built like a 15 year-old when he’s out there.

The game was the first time Roo managed four goals for the season, and there was some continuation of the good delivery he enjoyed last week. Importantly, he was given space through the forward line and the burden of scoring goals was carried successfully by others.

Dal collected 36 touches and kicked two lovely set-shot goals, and he’s surely in contention for his first Trevor Barker Award. There’s not much that needs to be said about his game other than he showed the poise and skill we know he’s capable of.

His partner in crime through the middle was Jack Steven. Vegas looks like a 15 year-old, but as last week’s “Lunch with Lenny” demonstrated, Jack may or may not be a 12 year-old. If he is, he’s definitely the most promising/best 12 year-old to have played at AFL level, and he’s had two months now I’ve good, effective football out of the middle.

Brendan Goddard gave the Channel 7 team something to get excited about when he became the centrepiece of the first major dust-up of the day. Fortunately for the broadcast, it happened right in front of one of the boundary side cameras, giving viewers the closest comfortable looks at BJ’s angry face. Goddard was otherwise close to his best as he collected 27 touches, a goal, and somehow managed to knee O’Shea in the face, be a St Kilda player and get away with it all at the same time.

McEvoy and Peake, at different stages of their careers, continued their improvement through 2011. McEvoy registered 40 touches, eventually getting on top in his fascinating battle against fellow youngster Matthew Lobbe, as well as providing a timely presence around the ground.

Peake, meanwhile, collected 19 touches but used them and his speed to good effect. His improvement has coincided with St Kilda’s over the past two months, and its players like him, Big Ben and Steven that have shared good form with their team – and that wouldn’t come down to chance.

Chance, however, is going to dictate St Kilda’s season for the foreseeable future. They’re not quite yet in a position where it’s entirely in their hands, but if they keep improving with everyone committing to the same ideals then they’ll only have themselves to worry about.

For now though, there’s West Coast too.

One step forward, two steps back; the Saints season fading quickly.

Round 6, 2011
Adelaide Crows 4.3,  6.9,  8.10,  13.12 (90)
St Kilda 0.6, 1.9,  6.12,  9.17 (71)
Crowd: 33,854 at AAMI Stadium, Saturday, April 30th, 7.10pm ACST

Now, you’d think…with the season virtually on the line at 1-1-2, playing a desperate Adelaide Crows, wolves still panting at the door that the Saints would come out with some real vigour. Right? Guys?

Nope. No-sir-ee. Fumbles were the order of the day, with unforced errors a close second. And the ironic thing – and perhaps a reflection of the fragility of the Crows – was that the Saints still mustered enough footy to create (and butcher) six scoring shots for the first quarter. Squandered opportunities continue to haunt them.

Before you could say ‘St Kilda’s season is over’ the Saints were trailing by five goals. But it was not so much the score line that was so concerning, it was the despondent feeling emanating from the sides leaders; you could see any remaining belief that the side possessed being drained from them before your eyes. When Nick Dal Santo is missing targets only 10 metres away, and Nick Riewoldt is spilling straightforward marks, then you know that Saints Footy is not at the races. Smith, Steven and Armitage all contributed, but the leaders still need to lead.

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